美国总统大选第二场电视辩论.docx
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美国总统大选第二场电视辩论
TranscriptofsecondMcCain,Obamadebate
NASHVILLE,Tennessee(CNN)--PresidentialcandidatesJohnMcCainandBarackObamadebatedinNashville,Tennessee,onTuesdaynight.NBC'sTomBrokawmoderatedthedebate.Hereisatranscriptofthatdebate.
TOM:
GoodeveningfromBelmontUniversityinNashville,Tennessee.I'mTomBrokawofNBCNews.Andwelcometothissecondpresidentialdebate,sponsoredbytheCommissiononPresidentialDebates.Tonight'sdebateistheonlyonewithatownhallformat.TheGallupOrganizationchose80uncommittedvotersfromtheNashvilleareatobeherewithustonight.Andearliertoday,eachofthemgavemeacopyoftheirquestionforthecandidates.Fromallofthesequestions--andfromtensofthousandssubmittedonline--Ihaveselectedalonglistofexcellentquestionsondomesticandforeignpolicy.Neitherthecommissionnorthecandidateshaveseenthequestions.Andalthoughwewon'tbeabletogettoallofthemtonight,weshouldhaveawide-rangingdiscussiononemonthbeforetheelection.Eachcandidatewillhavetwominutestorespondtoacommonquestion,andtherewillbeaone-minutefollow-up.Theaudiencehereinthehallhasagreedtobepolite,andattentive,nocheeringoroutbursts.Thoseofyouathome,ofcourse,arenotsoconstrained.Theonlyexceptioninthehallisrightnow,asitismyprivilegetointroducethecandidates,SenatorBarackObamaofIllinoisandSenatorJohnMcCainofArizona.Gentlemen?
Gentlemen,wewanttogetunderwayimmediately,ifwecan.SinceyoulastmetatOleMiss12daysago,theworldhaschangedagreatdeal,andnotforthebetter.Westilldon'tknowwherethebottomisatthistime.Asyoumightexpect,manyofthequestionsthatwehavefromhereinthehalltonightandfromonlinehavetodowiththeAmericaneconomyand,infact,withglobaleconomicconditions.Iunderstandthatyouflippedacoin.And,SenatorObama,youwillbegintonight.Andwe'regoingtohaveourfirstquestionfromoverhereinSectionAfromAlanSchaefer.Alan?
QUESTION:
Withtheeconomyonthedownturnandretiredandoldercitizensandworkerslosingtheirincomes,what'sthefastest,mostpositivesolutiontobailthesepeopleoutoftheeconomicruin?
OBAMA:
Well,Alan,thankyouverymuchforthequestion.Iwanttofirst,obviously,thankBelmontUniversity,Tom,thankyou,andtoallofyouwhoareparticipatingtonightandthoseofyouwhosente-mailquestionsin.IthinkeverybodyknowsnowweareintheworstfinancialcrisissincetheGreatDepression.AndalotofyouIthinkareworriedaboutyourjobs,yourpensions,yourretirementaccounts,yourabilitytosendyourchildoryourgrandchildtocollege.AndIbelievethisisafinalverdictonthefailedeconomicpoliciesofthelasteightyears,stronglypromotedbyPresidentBushandsupportedbySenatorMcCain,thatessentiallysaidthatweshouldstripawayregulations,consumerprotections,letthemarketrunwild,andprosperitywouldraindownonallofus.Ithasn'tworkedoutthatway.Andsonowwe'vegottotakesomedecisiveaction.
Now,steponewasarescuepackagethatwaspassedlastweek.We'vegottomakesurethatworksproperly.Andthatmeansstrongoversight,makingsurethatinvestors,taxpayersaregettingtheirmoneybackandtreatedasinvestors.ItmeansthatwearecrackingdownonCEOsandmakingsurethatthey'renotgettingbonusesorgoldenparachutesasaconsequenceofthispackage.And,infact,wejustfoundoutthatAIG,acompanythatgotabailout,justaweekaftertheygothelpwentona$400,000junket.AndI'lltellyouwhat,theTreasuryshoulddemandthatmoneybackandthoseexecutivesshouldbefired.Butthat'sonlystepone.
Themiddle-classneedarescuepackage.Andthatmeanstaxcutsforthemiddle-class.Itmeanshelpforhomeownerssothattheycanstayintheirhomes.Itmeansthatwearehelpingstateandlocalgovernmentssetuproadprojectsandbridgeprojectsthatkeeppeopleintheirjobs.Andthenlong-termwe'vegottofixourhealthcaresystem,we'vegottofixourenergysystemthatisputtingsuchanenormousburdenonfamilies.Youneedsomebodyworkingforyouandyou'vegottohavesomebodyinWashingtonwhoisthinkingaboutthemiddleclassandnotjustthosewhocanaffordtohirelobbyists.
TOM:
SenatorMcCain?
MCCAIN:
Well,thankyou,Tom.Thankyou,BelmontUniversity.AndSenatorObama,it'sgoodtobewithyouatatownhallmeeting.And,Alan,thankyouforyourquestion.YougototheheartofAmerica'sworriestonight.Americansareangry,they'reupset,andthey'realittlefearful.It'sourjobtofixtheproblem.Now,Ihaveaplantofixthisproblemandithasgottodowithenergyindependence.We'vegottostopsending$700billionayeartocountriesthatdon'twantusvery--likeusverymuch.WehavetokeepAmericans'taxeslow.AllAmericans'taxeslow.Let'snotraisetaxesonanybodytoday.Weobviouslyhavetostopthisspendingspreethat'sgoingoninWashington.Doyouknowthatwe'velaida$10trilliondebtontheseyoungAmericanswhoareherewithustonight,$500billionofitweowetoChina?
We'vegottohaveapackageofreformsandithasgottoleadtoreformprosperityandpeaceintheworld.AndIthinkthatthisproblemhasbecomesosevere,asyouknow,thatwe'regoingtohavetodosomethingabouthomevalues.Youknowthathomevaluesofretireescontinuestodeclineandpeoplearenolongerabletoaffordtheirmortgagepayments.AspresidentoftheUnitedStates,Alan,IwouldorderthesecretaryofthetreasurytoimmediatelybuyupthebadhomeloanmortgagesinAmericaandrenegotiateatthenewvalueofthosehomes--atthediminishedvalueofthosehomesandletpeoplebeabletomakethose--beabletomakethosepaymentsandstayintheirhomes.Isitexpensive?
Yes.Butweallknow,myfriends,untilwestabilizehomevaluesinAmerica,we'renevergoingtostartturningaroundandcreatingjobsandfixingoureconomy.Andwe'vegottogivesometrustandconfidencebacktoAmerica.Iknowhowthedothat,myfriends.Andit'smyproposal,it'snotSenatorObama'sproposal,it'snotPresidentBush'sproposal.ButIknowhowtogetAmericaworkingagain,restoreoureconomyandtakecareofworkingAmericans.Thankyou.
TOM:
Senator,wehaveoneminuteforadiscussionhere.Obviouslythepowersofthetreasurysecretaryhavebeengreatlyexpanded.Themostpowerfulofficerinthecabinetnow.HankPaulsonsayshewon'tstayon.Whodoyouhaveinmindtoappointtothatveryimportantpost?
SenatorMcCain?
MCCAIN:
Notyou,Tom.
TOM:
No,withgoodreason.
MCCAIN:
Youknow,that'satoughquestionandthere'salotofqualifiedAmericans.ButIthinkthefirstcriteria,Tom,wouldhavetobesomebodywhoimmediatelyAmericansidentifywith,immediatelysay,wecantrustthatindividual.AsupporterofSenatorObama'sisWarrenBuffett.Hehasalreadyweighedinandhelpedstabilizesomeofthedifficultiesinthemarketsandwithcompaniesandcorporations,institutionstoday.IlikeMegWhitman,sheknowswhatit'sliketobeoutthereinthemarketplace.Sheknowshowtocreatejobs.MegWhitmanwasCEOofacompanythatstartedwith12peopleandisnow1.3millionpeopleinAmericamaketheirlivingoffeBay.Maybesomebodyherehasdonealittlebusinesswiththem.
Butthepointisit'sgoingtohavetobesomebodywhoinspirestrustandconfidence.BecausetheprobleminAmericatodaytoalargeextent,Tom,isthatwedon'thavetrustandconfidenceinourinstitutionsbecauseofthecorruptiononWallStreetandthegreedandexcessandthecronyisminWashington,D.C.
TOM:
Allright.SenatorMcCain--SenatorObama,whodoyouhaveinmindfortreasurysecretary?
OBAMA:
Well,Warrenwouldbeaprettygoodchoice--WarrenBuffett,andI'mpleasedtohavehissupport.Butthereareotherfolksoutthere.Thekeyismakingsurethatthenexttreasurysecretaryunderstandsthatit'snotenoughjusttohelpthoseatthetop.Prosperityisnotjustgoingtotrickledown.We'vegottohelpthemiddleclass.OBAMA:
Andwe've--youknow,SenatorMcCainandIhavesomefundamentaldisagreementsontheeconomy,startingwithSenatorMcCain'sstatementearlierthathethoughtthefundamentalsoftheeconomyweresound.Partoftheproblemhereisthatformanyofyou,wagesandincomeshaveflat-lined.Formanyofyou,itisgettingharderandhardertosave,harderandhardertoretire.Andthat'swhy,forexample,ontaxpolicy,whatIwanttodoisprovideamiddleclasstaxcutto95percentofworkingAmericans,thosewhoareworkingtwojobs,peoplewhoarenotspendingenoughtimewiththeirkids,becausetheyarestrugglingtomakeendsmeet.SenatorMcCainisrightthatwe'vegottostabilizehousingprices.Butunderlyingthatislossofjobsandlossofincome.That'ssomethingthatthenexttreasurysecretaryisgoingtohavetoworkon.
TOM:
SenatorObama,thankyouverymuch.MayIremindbothofyou,ifIcan,thatwe'reoperatingunderrulesthatyousignedoffonandwhenwehaveadiscussion,itreallyistobeconfinedwithinaboutaminuteorso.We'regoingtogonow,SenatorMcCain,tothenextquestionfromyoufromthehallhere,anditcomesfromOliverClark(ph),whoisoverhereinsectionF.Oliver?
QUESTION:
Well,Senators,throughthiseconomiccrisis,mostofthepeoplethatIknowhavehadadifficulttime.Andthroughthisbailoutpackage,Iwaswonderingwhatitisthat'sgoingtoactuallyhelpthosepeopleout.
MCCAIN:
Well,thankyou,Oliver,andthat'sanexcellentquestion,becauseasyoujustdescribedit,bailout,whenIbelievethatit'srescue,because--becauseofthegreedandexcessinWashingtonandWallStreet,MainStreetwaspayingaveryheavyp
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